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I am thinking that v5 might actually be on the way....like a few weeks/months It hasn't even gone into beta yet. Hell, it's still in early stages of alpha from what I understand. v4 had a good two months of beta time so that people could get their forums ready for the switch. Because of how large of a change v5 is, I'd expect there to be even more beta time for it than v4. The odds of this hitting before the holidays are slim to none, in my opinion.
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V5 has been taking way too long. Honestly, you can't have this kind of a delay in releasing a new version, whether it's from scratch or not.
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Night: they started releasing new v4.5 features to make up for the lack of v5. I'm betting v5 isn't even 50% done. Last I talked with Martyn it wasn't anyways. 
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pb has been a dying breed for a while. Just the way it is. V5 won't help even if it IS released. ever.
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pb has been a dying breed for a while. Just the way it is. V5 won't help even if it IS released. ever. What v5 should do is potentially kill all design forums, but actually make more people who are currently here stick around.
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