Seriously? Who do I have to suck up to? I'm a three time staff member and once very active member of the SSD staff (another place where Kay was staff and is now an admin). On top of that, we dated for three months and have been more or less close like that for the last two years. Tell me, what reason do I have to suck up? Why would I need to?

EDIT: Shadow: The guy is a ghost. He seems to just stick to Obama's shadow and doesn't do anything for himself. I still don't understand why Obama chose him instead of a candidate from a swing state. =\


Last Edit: Sept 30, 2008 22:05:56 GMT by Josh

All true, and while he could've picked a better candidate Biden's experience and policies complement Obama for the most part even though he's nowhere to be seen. Not perfect and maybe not even good, but compared to the disaster that is Palin you can't really compare the two.

You can even tell McCain has regrets on his face whenever the two of them are up on a podium.

I also lol @ Fox News calling the whaaambulance over Palin having to endure sexism while they told Hillary to suck it up.

But again, I'm voting for the Presidential candidate and not the Vice Presidential candidate in November.

Fuck Politics.

Just pointing out what you said about Biden. And with McCain's age and health, you have to at least have a shred of consideration over who could take over if something happens.

I know he's old but so was Reagan. 4 years isn't that long of a time anyways.

You don't even live in America, so your opinion doesn't matter to my country. So I don't care what you think either.

Not only this, but the fact that he's failed to apply even the simplest forms of grammar to his post makes me disregard anything he has said as valid point.

Wow. Do you not know how to read or talk, or TYPE for that matter? My god, do yourself a favor and read this post. I DO NOT CARE IF YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY I SUPPORT HIM. Shall I make this louder, clearer and brighter? Because I can. I don't care to debate my beliefs, against yours. It won't change a damn thing, why waste my time? I have more important things to do. Especially since you don't even LIVE in this country, I could care less.



oh yeah, btw, he's not a suck up. He's my ex-boyfriend, so of course he's going to defend me, get over it and grow the hell up.

Obama has got my definite vote, and I can vote this year, woot. (Holy crap Kay is an admin now, congrats.) I love the majority of his policies, the way he seems more honest than most politicians, and in this economic crisis he really seems like he's the guy to get us out of this hole. No McCain, millions of dollars and under is not middle class. As an upper-middle class citizen, I'd rather have not have that man controlling the economy.

Edit: Reading through this topic is hilarious. For shame on Kay for not elaborating on why she supports Obama, but if people say 'McCain ftw ^^' without any elaboration at all, it's perfectly okay. XD Ah, politics...


Last Edit: Oct 1, 2008 8:26:51 GMT by danielazarc

o___O


Glad to see you came out of your hole I've been admin for over a year.

I just registered again yesterday, I've been away for more than a year. Can't remember when I registered my first account, but meh. You were global mod then or something like that. Anyway, going off topic...

Edit: Yeah, late 2006, early 2007... just found an old post of mine, yay.

Edit again: Oy, that theme with the banner I made is gone. Shame.


Last Edit: Oct 1, 2008 8:15:59 GMT by danielazarc

Reply at imbecile... > RoGeR

It's kind of pathetic that you assume that everyone's life revolves around this forum and that any action they may or may not do is based around getting 'cookie points' from an admin. Did it ever occur to you that some of us communicate outside of this message board? Seriously, most of us are somewhat older and don't have enough time on our hands to worry about that stupid kind of shit.

And as far as all you assholes who are sitting here attacking Kay, shut the hell up. Maybe she didn't want to get into a pointless debate with a bunch of people who won't change their opinion anyways. When I saw Kay's post, I read it and thought "Okay, she's voting for Obama; next." Really, this thread is just a poll and all Kay has done is show where one of the votes came from. She is not and has never been required to do more than that.

And as far as you "wan[ting]" to see reasons from her, as far as I can see, she has no reason to. All that has happened so far is she has been attacked and called ignorant. I suppose a good way to show someone that you care what about their opinion is to call them ignorant.

As far as your ridiculous (logical) reasons.

1. Aha, ha, hahahahaha. Perhaps, and I stress, perhaps, he may have had a chance to do this before he chose Palin as his vice. Well, now, good luck.

2. Hardly an issue right now. And I like how you say he will work with both parties. Seriously, if a president wants to get anything passed they either need a matching party Congress or to work with both parties. Even still, it's not exactly like the president is the one writing the bills, so it really doesn't matter anyways.

3. Or to change his mind when he's running for president, clearly. Many of his once "staunch" views have since changed as he has begun vying for the presidency. And to follow in Katie Couric's steps, "specific examples"?

4. What exactly does a pollution tax have to do with upstarts and favored corporations? Even further, how the hell are you tying the spread of democracy to this?

Now if you meant to say "and" instead of "which," then I still think you're an idiot. Having favored corporations is the exact opposite of the supposed Republican "no hands on" policy regarding the economy. Why the hell would you want to shoot down upstarts either? Sounds like a sure plan for economic growth to me.

Spread of democracy? We're not even a democracy, we're a republic, and a fairly easily corruptible one at that. Yes, let's continue to spread our imperfect government.

Now I'm not sure if I'm addressing McCain's points properly, I'm just addressing what you're saying.

5. How the hell is this statement relevant in any way, shape, or form?

6. I disagree a lot here. In fact I've found that very few "political stripes" like him, and that there just so happen to be a lot of people in those stripes.

7. Perhaps experience, but good experience? He has held no executive office to my knowledge. Though some politics carries over, the legislative side is incredibly different from the executive side. Really, there is very little that you can truly do to prepare for a presidency. Also, some of that "experience" has earned him a bad name among both Americans and foreign countries. My workplace is full of people from Europe and Asia, and I have yet to find one that supports McCain or believes that their country would support McCain.

8. Wow, big deal. Everyone has a personal agenda, even in a political party. Also, he doesn't just have to keep Republicans happy, but his constituents as well, which might mean working with Democrats. And as far as whether it hurt him or not, that would only be in the eyes of the right wing Republicans; the rest, for the most part, really don't care that much.

9. He understands this? You do realize that regardless of what either candidate says, taxes will be raised. Simple walk of life. This is one thing they can't be honest about or it will cost them the election. Proof is George Bush Sr. versus guy whose name I forgot. GBS said "Read my lips, no more taxes." Three months into office, guess what, taxes.

Now yes, typically congress (keyword: congress) will lower taxes during an economic drop to encourage spending and increase our GDP, but this one is hardly typical with the whole bailout business. We'll see yet exactly how this plays out.

10. This is standard military code of conduct. Even still, I greatly respect and honor him for this. Many broke it and I can't blame them, so it shows that he must have had an incredibly indomitable willpower to follow through with that command. For this he is an American hero, and I really don't think that anyone should try to take that from him (which many non-party affiliated groups have tried to do).

However, just being an American hero does not make someone well suited for the presidency. It does show some of his character, which I believe is incredibly important in a candidate.

However, his policies seem to follow very little along the lines of someone who went through that experience. To no fault of his own, it seems that he does not equate the economic struggle some people go through to his own struggle. At least aside from when discussing how many houses he has. Although comparing economic struggle to torture is a bit like apples and oranges, a struggle is a struggle. Some people starve themselves to feed their children, and that cannot be looked over. McCain's policies really do not cater to those who go through this situation.


And really, I'm not trying to be a douche. I know I came off rough at the start, but really, you guys attacking Kay is pissing me off. Then you attacking Josh for defending her (assuming it was for sucking up reasons) pissed me off even more. While I might not really talk to Josh, I do talk to Kay now and then.

Edit: Haha, I pretty much missed the whole third page. But regardless, everything still holds through.


Last Edit: Oct 3, 2008 9:56:59 GMT by Eric