Yup. We got about $50,000 from state agencies, support groups, a cleft pallet organization ran by Jauqin Phoenix (the scar on his upper lip is from a cleft pallet), and family. We paid off her surgery about two years ago, ten years after the surgery happened. And then the year after that we were hit with a life saving surgery for me that put us in $18,000 debt and that was with two different sets of insurance covering the costs. =\