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Xylish

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June 2005
...For killing us design sites....>.<

Blame the pb staff. They poked us into the ditches with the new opening of the Pb support graphics and coding boards. They didn't realized that with that hanging thread in which all our graphics board hang on to, it has been cut and we are falling down the pits.

Now with all the shit-holes that we are in, many of us design sites are hanging to our last bit of thread before the admins and staff snap their neurons and go offline from this world.

Designing Proboards for 5 years of experience. Along with 4 years experience with Popoweb....good o' days...has left me nothing but to fuel my empty passion of creating what is deemed great and competitive against the old SSD and ZD, including F5 and G101...into ashes...

For years and years, I have tried to find the suitable niches to cater the community...but as we all know. Many of us Proboarders are nothing but an inbred bunch of people, especially design sites, floating between each other's comfort, trying to gain our piece of fame within each other. Thereby not expanding much of our traffic to the real competitors: the "other community" sites, which are a lot larger and more successful than all the design sites here combined.

The only reason why some design sites are staying alive, is because the service sectors are filled. Code requests, code support, graphics support, graphics request...you name it...any member service done by the staff is now what powers today's proboards.

I really thank deeply to all those staff, including the staff here, for their endless and tireless requests that they have fulfilled...I have done it before and I know it is a damn bitch to do..but dirty work is what must be done many times....>.<


I'd really like to say to new Proboards designers and coder combos who really like to make this place a difference again: GOOD LUCK, you REALLY NEED IT

Either make something out of this world, or be prepared, to gather a few of your staff friends, and slave out in this damn community in order to game a bit of fame...in...oh..about 6 months time?!?!

Otherwise, if you people really want to make a new design site...listen from a 5 year vet. of Proboards:

UNLESS YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU CAN "WOW" US, WHICH IS UNLIKELY (it took me a damn 3-4 months each with Chris to achieve this effect) YOU ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE BLAMMED FROM THIS INBRED COMMUNITY THAN MAKING YOUR LITTLE PIECE OF FAME FROM THIS SHRINKING PIE.



Keep in mind (I'm only mentioning the old major design sites here...serious good luck for those emerging potentials!)
SSD has just been Cadaver Spammed -YES, NOT PORN- by an over enthusiast Necrophiliac Kid for about 24 hours! It is rare to see such a sight from a former Microsoft-like designer site (the old monopoly)

ZD has been destroyed by its own mistake of moving to IPB, including the departure of Nadim. The community has already being going downhill since Nadim "has a life already".

F5...brief me on what happened. But I did observe that it went dead..

G101...other than Jay's incident...I don't know what the hell happened.







Any refutes, disputes or comments. Hit them back at me. The 5 years of bottled up steam is bursting out from me.

Please note that sarcasm is greatly encouraged.

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O_o

Dam you have sum that up and then some. I agree with you on what you said, but though i dont know how it feels since i haven't had a coding or design site but i can see what it is happening.

Proboards had all theses great sites and now Poof gone just memory. As much as i like to see new people entering proboards making their own design and coding it, in the long run they wont go anywheres unless they have that wow.

Its hard enough to keep the BIG design/coding site open. I think the members should join the ones already open and make them bigger and better. Proboards Support is good and all and i think they should have support on graphics and coding but i think the requests and they rest of the graphic and coding sectoins to the sites that are making a run of it.

Who knows maybe once the v4.5 comes out there might be a change.

Chris

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June 2005
I really doubt PBS will change. The reason they added those boards is they wished to provide a central support for all ProBoards needs.

But yeah, I think you summed it up well Joe. >.< Yeah, that's all I can say.

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April 2006
That's one of the main reasons I tried to move my board's focus away from gfx & coding. Look how much SZ has died in the past few months, alone. It's getting ridiculous. :(
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Xylish

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O_o;;;

Well...yeah...we are in the same situation as all of you guys having design forums..

Btw Scorb...Isn't Roddy Innovations still a design board XP
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...no refutes...BRILLANT XDDD

I am tempted to post this in PBS for the HELL of it.

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Last Edit: Nov 16, 2007 2:21:57 GMT by Xylish
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February 2007
Wow!

Well dude, I know what u mean :)

However, there are still some good GFX?Coding forums, and trust me they will stay and PB will get back, meh thinks :P

Anyways...

Good luck with w/e u gona do ;D

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I whole heartily agree with you.We were going the same thing on HBS about adding certain boards with the knowledge of it destroying the few design boards on there.As an admin of a newly opened graphic/coding forum i understand that we all need to find something to make us different then the others.With PB having such a vast members base it makes this extremely hard to do.Even with excellent staff.

P.S i can't even get on PBS :(


Last Edit: Nov 16, 2007 19:02:45 GMT by Allan
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August 2005
Maybe people should make boards that aren't web/forum-design-oriented.

Ridiculous, I know, but it's just crazy enough to work. =P

Chris

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June 2005
shadowyone said:
Maybe people should make boards that aren't web/forum-design-oriented.

Ridiculous, I know, but it's just crazy enough to work. =P


ZOMG NO WAI.

But in reality, this discussion is based on the effects of PBS on design forums, not alternatives to design forums. :P

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September 2006
got some good discussion with some members there. But its funny that some all they have to say is "go outside more" Going outside more is not going to change your view on this.

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August 2007
We need to rally a designers' coalition. Perhaps a boycott of the PBS GDR would do something, force people to go to the design sites. I know that back when first joined up, I took one look at PBS's GDR, tried to get a request in and it just took so long that i hopped on over to SoCal. Got it filled over the weekend.

Stand against centralization, PB Designers, stand strong.

I will be no longer filling requests on PBS. (We'll see how long I make it)




Chris

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June 2005
webmaren said:
We need to rally a designers' coalition. Perhaps a boycott of the PBS GDR would do something, force people to go to the design sites. I know that back when first joined up, I took one look at PBS's GDR, tried to get a request in and it just took so long that i hopped on over to SoCal. Got it filled over the weekend.

Stand against centralization, PB Designers, stand strong.

I will be no longer filling requests on PBS. (We'll see how long I make it)


While that may appear to be effective, more designers will popup at PBS trying to jump in on the now rampant awards for helping out. =/

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October 2005
cddude229 said:
webmaren said:
We need to rally a designers' coalition. Perhaps a boycott of the PBS GDR would do something, force people to go to the design sites. I know that back when first joined up, I took one look at PBS's GDR, tried to get a request in and it just took so long that i hopped on over to SoCal. Got it filled over the weekend.

Stand against centralization, PB Designers, stand strong.

I will be no longer filling requests on PBS. (We'll see how long I make it)


While that may appear to be effective, more designers will popup at PBS trying to jump in on the now rampant awards for helping out. =/


Yeah but have you seen some of the graphics people are making over there.

When they get tired of shit graphics they will come over to design sites.
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October 2007
I know that design sites have a rough time... Having been with one for almost a year (and yes it has had its ups and downs) however I do believe that it is one of the stonger & more "wow" design forums.

I think that people that create "new" design forums aren't making anything wow, and aren't doing anything out of the ordinary. mAsDesigns (yes tht forum) did make something different. Designs that hadn't been made which created something "wow".

However I reckon if People just realised that they shouldn't create new design/coding boards and just focused on one then everyone would benefit.

I see SZ as being the number one coding forum. Mostly due to the fact that it has an awesome database. and also because it is somewhere people can come to make sure that their request is replied to (At least) within 12 hours (at most!)

And (not to be biased) but I do see mAsDesigns as being a number one graphics forum. I has awesome templates, awesome versions and will continue to do so.


Although all of that is off topic. Yes I do agree that PB are forcing alot of design forums out, but don't you also think that people are finding better alternatives & also hate some forums because they could be seen to be stuck up & Asses?

Finally, I think if some of the major (old) design forums just admitted defeat & decided to move over and let the new emerging design forums take over, there could be a time when one major design forum is big... VERY BIG, and all of the old forum admins join & contribute.

Who knows when that will happen? The sooner it happens though, the better I think it would be as a whole for the PB community as people will not even attempt to rival a huge forum will they?



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