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Hitler was the best speaker ever. Period. But I am curious, why do you think Obama is stupid?



I'm not going to bother explaining, people will just attack me anyway


Because the one, single explanation you've given for your opinion was, as Eric put it, a wording mistake. A verbal typo.

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As this topic can stir up many more debates and seems to be quite hot at the moment I will leave it open, with the warning of try to watch the bashing. Its great that you guys are all getting into this so much, I just don't want things going bad in here and having problems being caused.

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You have given no evidence for your opinion that Obama is stupid aside from him making a wording mistake, which all humans are prone to.


Sure, but when he "swatted the fly" I remember him saying "Thats pretty impressive huh?"

I mean, if your #1 in an interview, #2 the president, #3 in the middle of talking, it really isnt the place to be saying how impressive you are. Not only does it seem self-centered, but its very unprofessional.


That doesn't necessarily make him "stupid", and sure it may be unprofessional, but not so much self-centered. Not everyone can swat and kill a fly, so that is kind of impressive. I give him props.

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That doesn't necessarily make him "stupid", and sure it may be unprofessional, but not so much self-centered. Not everyone can swat and kill a fly, so that is kind of impressive. I give him props.


I didnt say he was stupid for that, and i have never met a person who cannot kill a fly.


With their "BEAR" hands? lol (inside joke I had to say, but the question is still relevant.) Not everyone can kill a fly first swat.

I only stated it doesn't make him stupid because that was your reply to this:

Today at 2:36pm, Eric wrote:

You have given no evidence for your opinion that Obama is stupid aside from him making a wording mistake, which all humans are prone to.



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You have given no evidence for your opinion that Obama is stupid aside from him making a wording mistake, which all humans are prone to.


Sure, but when he "swatted the fly" I remember him saying "Thats pretty impressive huh?"

I mean, if your #1 in an interview, #2 the president, #3 in the middle of talking, it really isnt the place to be saying how impressive you are. Not only does it seem self-centered, but its very unprofessional.
As I recall, it seemed more like a joke to me. The nature of the situation was pretty light-hearted and I thought the interviewer had mentioned something about the fly before Obama swatted it.

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Sure, but when he "swatted the fly" I remember him saying "Thats pretty impressive huh?"

I mean, if your #1 in an interview, #2 the president, #3 in the middle of talking, it really isnt the place to be saying how impressive you are. Not only does it seem self-centered, but its very unprofessional.
As I recall, it seemed more like a joke to me. The nature of the situation was pretty light-hearted and I thought the interviewer had mentioned something about the fly before Obama swatted it.


I second that. The president isn't allowed to be human anymore or what? "OMG he bragged about swatting a fly during an interview that self-centered asshole!"

No. He made a joke. Because he killed a fly. Just because you didn't find it particularly impressive or funny doesn't make him stupid, or self-centered, or unprofessional.


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I second that. The president isn't allowed to be human anymore or what? "OMG he bragged about swatting a fly during an interview that self-centered asshole!"

No. He made a joke. Because he killed a fly. Just because you didn't find it particularly impressive or funny doesn't make him stupid, or self-centered, or unprofessional.


So, if I swatted a fly, said "pretty impressive huh, what do you think?" and then said "i got that sucker, look, zoom in on him"

It IS unprofessional, especially during an interview.
I don't see where you're going with the first part. You never asked a question.

I don't really feel that it's unprofessional. I looked up the video again, and the person doing the interview said, that's a pretty persistent fly (not direct quote). The interviewer made it the topic of attention. To make a light joke about it after killing it shows a sense of humor, not unprofessionalism (totally made up word by me).

I get half of my work by being lighthearted and joking around with potential clients. I am serious when I need to be, but it never hurts to make a joke here and there. It helps to win people over and it's not insulting.

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I don't see where you're going with the first part. You never asked a question.

I don't really feel that it's unprofessional. I looked up the video again, and the person doing the interview said, that's a pretty persistent fly (not direct quote). The interviewer made it the topic of attention. To make a light joke about it after killing it shows a sense of humor, not unprofessionalism (totally made up word by me).

I get half of my work by being lighthearted and joking around with potential clients. I am serious when I need to be, but it never hurts to make a joke here and there. It helps to win people over and it's not insulting.


Maybe, but it can come off as being arrogant.


I don't want to get into this little debate again but... I seriously don't think you know what arrogant means...

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Sorry, but I found that hilarious. :P
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Sorry, but I found that hilarious. :P


What hilarious? :o


Perhaps the fact that you were ignorant about what word to use. =P

And I don't see how that makes him ignorant. He's lacking knowledge because he made a joke (not even really a "joke") about killing a fly? Seriously, if anyone else did that, you wouldn't think twice. You'd be all, "Hahaha, McCain is so funny. He was in a POW camp and now he killed a fly on camera. What a badass!" But because it's a president you hate, you're just grasping at straws for excuses to hate and insult him.

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I have a few thoughts

1. I, for one, consider bashing obama for "not being american" is racist as fuck, and seriously, you need to punch yourself in the mouth for even thinking that, nevermind saying it.

2. take. a. fucking. joke. He squshed a fly. big fucking deal. If you really get that upset about him boasting about killing a fly, maybe its because you have yet to suceed in that task. just sayin.

3. If you joined to talk to designers, then why are you still arguing? seriously. why.
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I could really care less if you think im an idiot because i dont love "Mr. Perfect Obama" it doesnt mean im an idiot, but you sir, obviously are if you think everyone is that doesnt like some african thats running AMERICA.


I was refering to that, not your unbacked hatred of obama.

Maybe yous hould try thinking before posting.
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I was refering to that, not your unbacked hatred of obama.

Maybe you should try thinking before posting.


Yes, I should. But I believe everyone should. I also hope you all know this is purely opinion.

But, I personally don't think a non-american should be running america. It doesnt matter if he's black, asian, mexican, canadian, british, etc. (Mostly non-white ones though, beings its hard to tell a canadian from an american)



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I can tell the difference. :P


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I was refering to that, not your unbacked hatred of obama.

Maybe you should try thinking before posting.


Yes, I should. But I believe everyone should. I also hope you all know this is purely opinion.

But, I personally don't think a non-american should be running america. It doesnt matter if he's black, asian, mexican, canadian, british, etc. (Mostly non-white ones though, beings its hard to tell a canadian from an american)
He's an American citizen. How is he non-American? Even soldiers and their wives have children over seas, are those children not considered American?

Also, from what I have seen, he was born in Hawaii, which is very much part of America. I have yet to see a LEGITIMATE source that indicates that he was born in Kenya. Even google searching the only sites I find that have anything relating to that are completely biased against him with tons of other Obama conspiracy theories (such as him being a terrorist).

Of course, that's not even where I really should be going with this. Who cares if he's from another country? He spent the majority of his life here, grew up here, and as far as I'm concerned he is just as entitled as anyone else to try to change the country for what he believes is better.

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